let's get straight to it, we pay egypt billions of dollars per year. it's been taken by the muslim brotherhood. they now have a dictator, should we keep paying? >> absolutely not, stuart. it is so important for us to not only stop paying them but the imf for example yesterday said they were going to pay 40 billion, so, you know, i think ultimately we need to have a strategy to engage their ideology. they're proving themselves over and over again to be dishonest and to be just another dictator. we are seeing people come to the street. you know, stuart, i know you asked that question before the break about whether democracy can hold. the people are coming back into the streets. there is hope, but won't be able to do it in a vacuum. we need to back the people in tahrir. the brotherhood did not win with a majority. they are proving themselves to be another dictator and revolution 2.0, 3.0 and ultimately it will evolve. stuart: i have to press that point. nowhere in north africa, nowhere in the middle east at the moment, islamic societies, muslim societies,